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"Teachers, Parents, Cops, and Active Shooters" with Kellie Clark and Jon Monroe


​In this episode of The BOLO Podcast, Kellie Clark and Jon Monroe are in the studio with Marc and Mike for the second installment of The Real Cops FaceBook Live series. The whole crew is answering viewer questions and talking about what parents, teachers, students, and civilians need to know about preparing and dealing with active shooters.

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Summary of The Real Cops Interview with Jon Monroe and Kellie Clark:

  • The Real Cops FaceBook Live Talkshow will be continuing on Thursday nights 7 pm pst. 
  • The premise of the show is Real Cops talking about real topics and giving the audience the ability to have an open conversation with officers and guests.
  • Kellie Clark is an owner of American Threat Assesment Consulting. 
  • Jon Monroe from Tokoloshe Tactical is back for another episode. 
  • Officer Casillas from Pomona PD has been laid to rest. He is survived by his wife and two children. 
  • Austin bombing suspect blew himself up. 
  • The school resource officer in Maryland stopped shooting at a high school. 
  • If the teachers union refuses training, then mandate it and allow them to strike if they continue to dispute. We must fight for the kids.

Q: What do people first need to consider before an active shooter incident occurs?
J: We have to get out of the mindset of "I can't believe this happened here." Think of what you can do when bad things happen. How do we make it difficult for someone to gain access to harm? Prevention is where it starts.
K: Security needs to be a priority. Not only in schools.
As a civilian ask yourself, 'if something happened right now, what would you do?'

Q: What would you recommend schools do to make lockdown drills more effective?
J: 1.The lockdown drill has to be scheduled on a particular day so teachers can work it into their curriculum, but the time should be spontaneous.
2. Assign someone in the office to lock down the school, even during passing period.
3. Officers should get involved and give notes on what went well and what needs improvement.
4. Bring in the ALICE program to teach to students and teachers.
5. Repeat the process several times a year.
Alert Lockdown Inform Counter Evacuate

Q: What should armed civilians consider during active shooter?
MM: You should have a more aware mindset and consider where you're shooting. If you are an officer have someone call the police and tell them what you are wearing, so the police don't mistake you for the active shooter.
J: Civilians should practice tactics and educate yourself on the officer's mindset. Don't go and play hero and put others at risk if you don't have training.

Q: What are your thoughts on putting off-duty LEO's at schools that don't have an SRO?
MB: Get creative to put cops, and well-qualified and armed veterans to put in hours protecting schools. Have a light windbreaker or jacket that a cop wears on the school campus to be identified by other officers.
J: You need to consider who is going to take liability for the officer on duty at the school.

Q: In a situation dealing with an active shooter should you engage or hunker down?
J: It depends on how comfortable you feel advancing towards him and the situation around you. You may be of better service taking another route and trying to get people to safety instead of adding to the chaos. Found that if you are the first on site, if you stay outside and give direction the operation to get people to safety can work out better.
MM: Officers are taught not to go in unless you have a team with you. He has the mentality of if he's first on-site and is adequately equipped, he's going in.

Q: What should people be carrying?
J: Tourniquets can be carried in the car and businesses should also be stocked. Inform yourself on how to make a tourniquet on what you have on you.
MB: Tampons are a great item to have on you to be used to stop bleeding.

Q: What are some primary first aid tips?
MB: Put blankets, jackets, backpacks, etc. on people who have been injured. Your body temperature drops and can send you into shock.
J: Civilians need to step up to help save peoples lives. If you go to your local fire department, they have a first care provider program while you're waiting for first responders. A tourniquet can save someone from bleeding out.

Q: What do teachers think their responsibility is during active shooter? Save themselves first or the students?
K: Teachers don't want to feel responsible for saving your children. They often feel scared and don't know what they should be doing. Parents feel that their children are in the care of the teachers and need to know that teachers will have the proper mindset to be proactive. We must give teachers the tools to be able to do their jobs.
J: Legally teachers are responsible for the children. More and more pressures and responsibilities on the teachers and it's up to the district to give them the proper training.

Q: How do parents view the teacher's responsibility?
K: Parents need to be responsible for their children. Often during teachers meetings, they want to dispute discipline in the schools because 'their child would never do that.' Involve yourself in your child's social media, their friends, sports, etc.

Q: Schools fire codes?
K: Parents asked for the bulletproof glass for schools, and the fire department wouldn't approve it because of ADA approval, etc. They also don't have security requirements. Kelly says that keeping the kids safe is not a luxury item, it's a necessity and needs to be enforced. Requirements for schools and businesses need enforcement to keep people sage.

Q: How can a woman be better prepared for active shooter incidents?
K: As an adult protect the children first. Be aware and have basic training in self-defense. After going through courses, they can give you confidence and teach you your capabilities and alternatives to overcome shortcomings and your strengths.
J: Woman are better at healing and comforting people after the incident. You can make a significant impact on helping people recover. Think of where you can be exceptional to make the most significant impact.

Q: Parents of potential active shooters?
MB: If you see that something is off with your kid, don't ignore it. Seek professional assistance. Take their phones away periodically.
J: If you ask your kid what they are looking at or if they lock you out of something, then take the device away. Know what your kids are doing. Be a parent. Police departments offer classes on how to monitor your children's internet presence.
K: Schools should provide training for parents on what's new. Make sure your children are at an appropriate age for social media and are mature enough and responsible enough to handle it.
MM: Have open communication with your kids. Have software on their phones, but let them know and don't be sneaky. Take devices away when necessary and be present. Monitor who your kids are talking to on their video game consoles as well.

You can contact Kellie Clark at a-tacinc.com and Jon Monroe @tokoloshetactical on FaceBook and Instagram




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